Drifting away from the original path
Published on July 25, 2005 By El_Viborillas In War on Terror
I have to start saying that I am not American. I can say that I have always admired America, however. I have studied its history and its culture. As an English Language teacher I am an active promoter of the American traditions, values and way of life. And IMHO, what America has become from about the moment they exploded the first atomic bomb to the present, is everytime further, and further away from what Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln and many like them dreamed it was its fate.

America was originally conceived as the Light of the World, the Land of Liberty. And, although it has become more evident from the 1990's its course has drifted away from it since 1945.

I think the two wars America has started in the XXI century are the biggest mistake in its history. Not only for the evidently manipulated way they have been justified, which has led to a dramatic decrease in American reputation, and thus its leadership around the world. But also, and most importantly because they have impacted on the core root of its being America: Its own LIBERTY.

Its reputation has decreased to the point that everything America may do in the future will be stained by the way the oil factor was hidden behind a smoke curtain that no one believes anymore. Stained by the fact that many more innocent people were slaughtered than those who were "saved" from a dictator who had been empowered and promoted by America with the same arguments, not long before. Stained by the fact that those weapons were built and exported from America in the name of freedom.

But the worse is happening in American territory and, even worse, to American people. No longer can they feel safe walking the streets of their magnificent cities. No longer are they free to do many things out of the everyday stricter control of their movements. No longer can they safely wander the world nor open their gates to the world as it originally had to be. America is now in a process of slooow isolation. Under restraints that only themselves are imposing due to a low intensity fear that increases irremediably. To the point that they are not even free to pull out of Iraq if they wanted. And not because Iraq is in turnmoil, but because if they did, they would become more vulnerable.

No! America should not pull out of Iraq. America should back out completely and free its people and the rest of the world from this manipulated war for economical adventures, before it gets too late and it gets unstoppable.

I pray for America. I pray that their leaders are enlightened to stop this war. I pray to God that their people open their eyes and not let themselves be manipulated. America has the light. It has the power. It only needs the will to recover the path.

God Bless America

El Viborillas
Mexico

Comments
on Jul 25, 2005
I think the two wars America has started in the XXI century are the biggest mistake in its history.

OK, for clarification, which two wars?

Light of the World, the Land of Liberty.

You do not think that the general populus of this country or the citizens who desire entrance, do not see it as a Land of Liberty?

IG
on Jul 25, 2005
No longer can they feel safe walking the streets of their magnificent cities. No longer are they free to do many things out of the everyday stricter control of their movements.


Nobody has lost their freedoms, and I do feel safe knowing my country is now fighting terrorism, not appeasing it.


No! America should not pull out of Iraq. America should back out completely and free its people and the rest of the world from this manipulated war for economical adventures, before it gets too late and it gets unstoppable.


It seems you have gotten most of your talking points from left wing websites. There is absolutely no evidence this war was "manipulated" or anything to do with "economical adventures". Do you take the time to read about the good things in Iraq, or do you just read the headlines that like to spotlight only certain things that fit their agenda?
on Jul 25, 2005
All those who say we should pull out of Iraq need to bear in mind it would just become another Islamic theocracy if we did, and a haven for Jihadists. The insurgents murder Iraqis with no conscience, don't give them power. Stick with the Iraqis till they can fight on their own.
on Jul 26, 2005
OK, for clarification, which two wars?


Get acquainted. They are two. And you will soon be involved in three.

Nobody has lost their freedoms, and I do feel safe knowing my country is now fighting terrorism, not appeasing it.


Let me see if I understood this. Do you mean you feel safe because there is more police now? Or because your government can arrest you just for looking like a terrorist without defining what that is? Ok, don't be scared. You will feel safer and freer when you have video cameras in every corner watching everything you do, and they ask you for an ID to buy bread.

There is absolutely no evidence this war was "manipulated" or anything to do with "economical adventures"


There is much more evidence that it is manipulated than not.

It seems you have gotten most of your talking points from left wing websites.


But you won't see the evidence if you only watch CNN news.

All those who say we should pull out of Iraq need to bear in mind it would just become another Islamic theocracy if we did,


Exactly. As I said before, America in not even free to pull out. And at this point the only possibility is to back out completely. Else, America will get more and more stuck in the violence spiral that it has created, and that ends up in worldwide conflagration.

You know, I love America. I would fight for it if I were given the priviledge. IMHO it is still a land of Light and Liberty. I really hate watching them going down the gutter. So I'll keep praying that you open your eyes.

Thanks for replying.
God Bless America!!!
on Jul 26, 2005
Let me see if I understood this. Do you mean you feel safe because there is more police now? Or because your government can arrest you just for looking like a terrorist without defining what that is? Ok, don't be scared. You will feel safer and freer when you have video cameras in every corner watching everything you do, and they ask you for an ID to buy bread.


Most of your statement is just false. I feel safe because I know we are more aware of terrorism and we have a President who fights terrorists, not runs from them. As far as your "video cameras" and "ID" comments, this just proves that you do not live in America. There is nothing even close to that happening.


There is much more evidence that it is manipulated than not


Actually there is not. Many people have started posts giving people the opportunity to prove the allegations of "war for oil", and the other idiot statements made by people like you. Nobody has done it yet.


But you won't see the evidence if you only watch CNN news.


CNN is left wing.

You know, I love America. I would fight for it if I were given the priviledge. IMHO it is still a land of Light and Liberty. I really hate watching them going down the gutter. So I'll keep praying that you open your eyes.


Save your bs comment. America is the greatest country. She might have a few problems, but we are hardly "in the gutter". Do us all a favor, stay in your own country and shut up.
on Jul 26, 2005
"Exactly. As I said before, America in not even free to pull out. And at this point the only possibility is to back out..."

I think you misunderstood what I said. If we along with our allies pull out before the Iraqi security services are ready to fight, the insurgency will take over and you will just see yet another Islamic theocracy. Is this really what the left wing want? Another Iran?

Hell no, there is a wind of change in the Middle East towards democracy. Ultimately, democracy is the ONLY way to fight terrorism. We stay until the job is done, and the Iraqis are free from the medieval Islamics and their 12th century caliphate.
on Jul 27, 2005
Hey Handy Hank,

Thanks for your opinion.

I agree with you. "Democracy is the ONLY way to fight terrorism," and all the other problems in the Middle East and America and everywhere else. But democracy is not war out of anybody's bowels. I think I remember someone saying above, "America is the greatest country," and thus it should fight for democracy not for oil. It should fight for freedom not for money. It should seek to be respected, not feared. It should fight, not slaughter. Those are the original values of America. Any other manipulation will only isolate America and dispose its original principles.

And I agree with you again. America is simply not able to leave Iraq until the job is done. However, I do not think murdering innocent people is the way to do this job. Killing innocent people to save innocent people is much less than what America can do and think of. Biting and barking in response to bites and barks is reducing the greatness of America to the level of a street dog's. America should not dishonour itself doing so to fight another street dog. I truely believe there is much more intelligence (and I am not refering to govenment agencies,) much more spiritual power in America than this.

America was planned as the saviour of the world. And this is not my humble opinion. It was never meant a tool for a bunch of egoistic business people to control and manipulate. The vast majority of the American people know this. It is not a problem of political geometry. It is a question of universal values and principles.

Warm Regards,

El Viborillas
Mexico.
on Jul 27, 2005
You guys still can't come up with anything better than "war for oil" and the other nonsense you speak. You seem to care so much now about innocents in Iraq. Can you tell me when was the last anti-Saddam protest was that you attended?
on Jul 28, 2005
Better tone Island Dog. I think you deserve an answer because I think you are honest in your defending America.

You are right. I do care very much about innocents in Iraq. And innocents in NY, and in London, and in Spain and everywhere else in the world. I still do not know why you have not just killed Sadam, jailed Posadas, or "hunted down" Bin Laden. Dead should be for those, not for innocents in any Nation. The defense of the innocent is an American tradition that should be exported from America.

I am not against the war. I strongly critisized President Fox for not having supported America on the invasion of Irag. However, I am against the way this war has been handled and manipulated. Think about it. Sadam is being given the "justice" that he did not give his people with American help. Posadas was freed by American laws. And Bin Laden "cannot be found" by the best intelligence services in the world. The greatest country's intelligence services cannot locate the murderer of innocent Americans in their own territory?

I apologize if I offended you in any way. But it is still my strongest conviction that it is America the only one that can solve this terribly manipulated mess. I will keep praying:

Long Live America.

El_Viborillas
Mexico
on Jul 28, 2005
I think the two wars America has started in the XXI century are the biggest mistake in its history.


Get acquainted. They are two. And you will soon be involved in three


--Huh...WW1,WW2, Vietnam, Korea,Iraq1,Iraq2,Afghanistan...? Be specific...you seem to think that people will know...and i don't....my guess is afghanistan...and iraq...but both 1 and 2 were "started" by the US...so you were wrong...